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		<title>Comment on How to Install Lotus Notes 8, Step by Step by IBM Lotus Notes Kurulumu</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2007/08/31/how-to-install-lotus-notes-8-step-by-step/comment-page-1/#comment-1325</link>
		<dc:creator>IBM Lotus Notes Kurulumu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Normal Internetteki Mail accountlar icinde kullanabilirsin.  Resimli olarak setup burda anlatilmis; How to Install Lotus Notes 8, Step by Step &#124; Domino, Email, Spam and IT Related                Al?nt? ile Cevapla              + Konuyu Cevapla     &#171; Server 2003 R2 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Normal Internetteki Mail accountlar icinde kullanabilirsin.  Resimli olarak setup burda anlatilmis; How to Install Lotus Notes 8, Step by Step | Domino, Email, Spam and IT Related                Al?nt? ile Cevapla              + Konuyu Cevapla     &laquo; Server 2003 R2 [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Uceprotect, a good guy or a bad guy? by maounique</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-1323</link>
		<dc:creator>maounique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 14:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really... I do test every provider i get and I get many for many companies I offer services to.
If they are only listed in UCE, there is no problem, I just tell them how to inform the admins of some mail servers that still use their list to whitelist them and also how to stop encouraging extorsion. If there are enough ppl that have to be whitelisted, using UCE is no longer an option for the admins, so they will switch to a legit list in the end. It is all about education, scams only work because ppl are not informed, once you know what to do, extortion is not working anymore.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really&#8230; I do test every provider i get and I get many for many companies I offer services to.<br />
If they are only listed in UCE, there is no problem, I just tell them how to inform the admins of some mail servers that still use their list to whitelist them and also how to stop encouraging extorsion. If there are enough ppl that have to be whitelisted, using UCE is no longer an option for the admins, so they will switch to a legit list in the end. It is all about education, scams only work because ppl are not informed, once you know what to do, extortion is not working anymore.<br />
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		<title>Comment on Uceprotect, a good guy or a bad guy? by Wouter van Eekelen</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>Wouter van Eekelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Phil Taylor: You do not have to pay! The listings automatically expire once the SPAM stops for 7 days. Also, nothing is impossible. What about scanning outgoing mail for SPAM? What about enforcing safe passwords? What about locking an account if there have been 50 valid logins from the customers country (UK for example) and then suddenly one from Nigeria/Iran/Morocco? What about limiting a customer to 50 emails per day and raising this limit if you see they sent &gt; 50 legitimate e-mails? Lots of options.

@admin: Then that&#039;s a choice you make. You stick to an ISP that doesn&#039;t take security/anti-spam seriously, then you will end up getting blacklisted (on more than just uceprotect)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Phil Taylor: You do not have to pay! The listings automatically expire once the SPAM stops for 7 days. Also, nothing is impossible. What about scanning outgoing mail for SPAM? What about enforcing safe passwords? What about locking an account if there have been 50 valid logins from the customers country (UK for example) and then suddenly one from Nigeria/Iran/Morocco? What about limiting a customer to 50 emails per day and raising this limit if you see they sent &gt; 50 legitimate e-mails? Lots of options.</p>
<p>@admin: Then that&#8217;s a choice you make. You stick to an ISP that doesn&#8217;t take security/anti-spam seriously, then you will end up getting blacklisted (on more than just uceprotect)..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Uceprotect, a good guy or a bad guy? by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-1321</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Changing isp is not that easy, and in my country, my current isp is the best there is. Swicthing isp will be downgrade the connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changing isp is not that easy, and in my country, my current isp is the best there is. Swicthing isp will be downgrade the connection.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Uceprotect, a good guy or a bad guy? by Phil Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-1320</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bfebrian @PM I guess that you work for UCEPROTECT?

What in incredible patronizing attitude. We take security very seriously but unfortunately we have users that do not understand this. Once problems have been discovered, we swiftly correct them but by then the damage is already done. If a user accidentally discloses their password through a phishing attack, how are we supposed to know about this BEFORE the messages get sent out? We are an ISP with 1000s of users on our mailservers so your suggestion to switch to an ISP that takes security seriously is quite frankly ridiculous.

We closely monitor our mailservers and have automated alerts if mailq lengths are unusually high but it is quite likely that in this situation 100-200 spam emails can get through before we detect it. 

We are absolutely NOT going to pay this extortion racket in order to be delisted. You appear to feel that you can defend the indefensible which suggests to me that you are a shill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bfebrian @PM I guess that you work for UCEPROTECT?</p>
<p>What in incredible patronizing attitude. We take security very seriously but unfortunately we have users that do not understand this. Once problems have been discovered, we swiftly correct them but by then the damage is already done. If a user accidentally discloses their password through a phishing attack, how are we supposed to know about this BEFORE the messages get sent out? We are an ISP with 1000s of users on our mailservers so your suggestion to switch to an ISP that takes security seriously is quite frankly ridiculous.</p>
<p>We closely monitor our mailservers and have automated alerts if mailq lengths are unusually high but it is quite likely that in this situation 100-200 spam emails can get through before we detect it. </p>
<p>We are absolutely NOT going to pay this extortion racket in order to be delisted. You appear to feel that you can defend the indefensible which suggests to me that you are a shill.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Uceprotect, a good guy or a bad guy? by Wouter van Eekelen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wouter van Eekelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UCEPROTECT does not list an entire range just because of 1 abusive customer.
There need to be 5 spammers in one /24 (255 users) to get a range listed. 

Your ISP should either start taking security/abuse seriously (as mentioned in my earlier comment), and if they don&#039;t, you should switch to an ISP that does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UCEPROTECT does not list an entire range just because of 1 abusive customer.<br />
There need to be 5 spammers in one /24 (255 users) to get a range listed. </p>
<p>Your ISP should either start taking security/abuse seriously (as mentioned in my earlier comment), and if they don&#8217;t, you should switch to an ISP that does.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Uceprotect, a good guy or a bad guy? by bfebrian</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-1318</link>
		<dc:creator>bfebrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 06:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wouter van Eekelen: other dnsbl simply listed the one IP that sent out spam, but uceprotect listed the entire ISP. 
just because one criminal hide in my apartment building, the police can&#039;t just blow up the entire building, that what uceprotect does, blow up the entire building.
Personally, I try so hard to secure my system, my network and my servers, but just because one of the IP in my ISP send out spam, I also got the blame.
for business that heavily rely on email, 7 days are too long for something that I didn&#039;t do. Seven days can close the business down.
We all trying to secure our network to make it better, but sh*t happen, even the biggest IT companies also got hacked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wouter van Eekelen: other dnsbl simply listed the one IP that sent out spam, but uceprotect listed the entire ISP.<br />
just because one criminal hide in my apartment building, the police can&#8217;t just blow up the entire building, that what uceprotect does, blow up the entire building.<br />
Personally, I try so hard to secure my system, my network and my servers, but just because one of the IP in my ISP send out spam, I also got the blame.<br />
for business that heavily rely on email, 7 days are too long for something that I didn&#8217;t do. Seven days can close the business down.<br />
We all trying to secure our network to make it better, but sh*t happen, even the biggest IT companies also got hacked.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Uceprotect, a good guy or a bad guy? by Wouter van Eekelen</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>Wouter van Eekelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UCEPROTECT is fine. They charge money for _express_ delisting, to avoid spammers from removing their IP instantly and continuing to SPAM. Otherwise it simply expires after 7 days and no harm is done. 

The comments on this blog are funny by the way:
&gt; &quot;becouse its worker go to vacation and set autorespond about that.&quot;
Auto responders are horrible, especially if they reply to SPAM.
E-Mail can be forged to be from &#039;victim@domain.tld&#039;, so you are effectively amplifying the attack and sending e-mails to innocent users who have nothing to do with it.

- &quot;due to an infected pc&quot;
How about taking security seriously? Your infected PC most likely sent out thousands of SPAM emails, and hence has been listed for 7 days. Seems equal to me.

- &quot;my provider had some ranges that were infected&quot;
So your provider has to block port 25, run anti-spam on their network (outgoing), educate their customers on security and terminate abusive ones.

- &quot;due to 1 or 2 user in our ip range get blacklisted.&quot;
How about taking security seriously? Your infected PC most likely sent out thousand of SPAM emails, and hence has been listed for 7 days. Seems equal to me.

- &quot;this from about 1700 perceived spam emails.&quot;
1700 SPAM emails and you find it odd they blacklist you for 7 days? Softlayer should take abuse seriously and act upon every single complaint they get.

- &quot;some dodgy African spammer hacked into one of my users accounts&quot;
How about taking security seriously? Your users account was most likely used to sent out thousands of SPAM emails, and hence has been listed for 7 days. Seems equal to me.

Simply put: take security seriously, take abuse seriously and you won&#039;t be listed on any blacklist whatsoever. Stop helping spammers send out SPAM and make this world a better place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UCEPROTECT is fine. They charge money for _express_ delisting, to avoid spammers from removing their IP instantly and continuing to SPAM. Otherwise it simply expires after 7 days and no harm is done. </p>
<p>The comments on this blog are funny by the way:<br />
&gt; &#8220;becouse its worker go to vacation and set autorespond about that.&#8221;<br />
Auto responders are horrible, especially if they reply to SPAM.<br />
E-Mail can be forged to be from &#8216;victim@domain.tld&#8217;, so you are effectively amplifying the attack and sending e-mails to innocent users who have nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>- &#8220;due to an infected pc&#8221;<br />
How about taking security seriously? Your infected PC most likely sent out thousands of SPAM emails, and hence has been listed for 7 days. Seems equal to me.</p>
<p>- &#8220;my provider had some ranges that were infected&#8221;<br />
So your provider has to block port 25, run anti-spam on their network (outgoing), educate their customers on security and terminate abusive ones.</p>
<p>- &#8220;due to 1 or 2 user in our ip range get blacklisted.&#8221;<br />
How about taking security seriously? Your infected PC most likely sent out thousand of SPAM emails, and hence has been listed for 7 days. Seems equal to me.</p>
<p>- &#8220;this from about 1700 perceived spam emails.&#8221;<br />
1700 SPAM emails and you find it odd they blacklist you for 7 days? Softlayer should take abuse seriously and act upon every single complaint they get.</p>
<p>- &#8220;some dodgy African spammer hacked into one of my users accounts&#8221;<br />
How about taking security seriously? Your users account was most likely used to sent out thousands of SPAM emails, and hence has been listed for 7 days. Seems equal to me.</p>
<p>Simply put: take security seriously, take abuse seriously and you won&#8217;t be listed on any blacklist whatsoever. Stop helping spammers send out SPAM and make this world a better place.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to install Blackberry Connect in Nokia by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/12/06/how-to-install-blackberry-connect-in-nokia/comment-page-1/#comment-1312</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blackberry connect for nokia already discontinue.</description>
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		<title>Comment on How to install Blackberry Connect in Nokia by jones</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/12/06/how-to-install-blackberry-connect-in-nokia/comment-page-1/#comment-1311</link>
		<dc:creator>jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please how can i download the bbconnect with my E61i? Bcos i cant find it in Nokia business software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please how can i download the bbconnect with my E61i? Bcos i cant find it in Nokia business software.</p>
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