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	<title>Comments on: Uceprotect, a good guy or a bad guy?</title>
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		<title>By: What is wrong with this picture</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>What is wrong with this picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These crooks are worse than Hitler and the Nazi&#039;s. They have found a way to prey on the fear of spam and to black mail and extort money through this fear. But they can only be stopped if people like gmail and comcast.net stop blindly using them just because they claim to be an RBL. They are evil. For example that have over 550,000 ip addresses for softlayer blocked and since each of those could house 2-10 domains they can block 2 or 3 millions mail servers from these domains. This from about 1700 perceived spam emails. This is very irresponsible for major networks to blindly use an RBl that may be twisted and evil as hell. Why doesn&#039;t a major ISP take action, sue them, report them? They are not protecting their customers or providing the service their customers paid for if they don&#039;t. Black Lists are a unique form of evil. With black lists we don&#039;t need laws or justice. Stand UP and be counted. Our of 70 RBLs UCEprotect is the only 1 listing softlayer.com containing 550,000 ip addresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These crooks are worse than Hitler and the Nazi&#8217;s. They have found a way to prey on the fear of spam and to black mail and extort money through this fear. But they can only be stopped if people like gmail and comcast.net stop blindly using them just because they claim to be an RBL. They are evil. For example that have over 550,000 ip addresses for softlayer blocked and since each of those could house 2-10 domains they can block 2 or 3 millions mail servers from these domains. This from about 1700 perceived spam emails. This is very irresponsible for major networks to blindly use an RBl that may be twisted and evil as hell. Why doesn&#8217;t a major ISP take action, sue them, report them? They are not protecting their customers or providing the service their customers paid for if they don&#8217;t. Black Lists are a unique form of evil. With black lists we don&#8217;t need laws or justice. Stand UP and be counted. Our of 70 RBLs UCEprotect is the only 1 listing softlayer.com containing 550,000 ip addresses.</p>
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		<title>By: What is wrong with this picture</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>What is wrong with this picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of 70 RBL UCprotect is the only 1 listing softlayer.com containing 550,000 ip addresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of 70 RBL UCprotect is the only 1 listing softlayer.com containing 550,000 ip addresses.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a legitimate business, who has been listed by this bunch of idiots and this is causing a problem for my mails both in and out.
Then I see that they want to charge $18 for a &quot;whitelisting&quot;
Stuff them!!!!!!!
What right do they have to stuff around with my legitimate IP.

I think they are the criminals here and please someone who knows how, take legal action against this bunch of f....g idiots who are stuffing up my business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a legitimate business, who has been listed by this bunch of idiots and this is causing a problem for my mails both in and out.<br />
Then I see that they want to charge $18 for a &#8220;whitelisting&#8221;<br />
Stuff them!!!!!!!<br />
What right do they have to stuff around with my legitimate IP.</p>
<p>I think they are the criminals here and please someone who knows how, take legal action against this bunch of f&#8230;.g idiots who are stuffing up my business.</p>
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		<title>By: Maounique</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>Maounique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 03:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contacting police wont help, I think, only educating ISPs and individual mail server operators to ditch such scams will help IMO.
However, since last year things have changed there a bit, now they are explicitely warning users of their lists about what might happen and why. Perhaps because some legal problems they had, so I believe acting on the legal field is no longer productive now, they adapted to avoid prosecution.
I think admins should be really dumb to use their list when they explicitely say &quot;you will lose legitimate mail if you use our lists&quot;.
M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contacting police wont help, I think, only educating ISPs and individual mail server operators to ditch such scams will help IMO.<br />
However, since last year things have changed there a bit, now they are explicitely warning users of their lists about what might happen and why. Perhaps because some legal problems they had, so I believe acting on the legal field is no longer productive now, they adapted to avoid prosecution.<br />
I think admins should be really dumb to use their list when they explicitely say &#8220;you will lose legitimate mail if you use our lists&#8221;.<br />
M</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had issues today because of UCEPROTECT. They are a scam and nothing more They are worse than spammers since they will take money to &quot;remove&quot; you from the list. If they care about spam they would not take money at all - this shows they are just a scam.

I got my ISP not to use UCEPROTECT. Someone should start a class action suit againt these scammers.

I have contacted Bundeskriminalamt in Germany with a formal complaint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had issues today because of UCEPROTECT. They are a scam and nothing more They are worse than spammers since they will take money to &#8220;remove&#8221; you from the list. If they care about spam they would not take money at all &#8211; this shows they are just a scam.</p>
<p>I got my ISP not to use UCEPROTECT. Someone should start a class action suit againt these scammers.</p>
<p>I have contacted Bundeskriminalamt in Germany with a formal complaint.</p>
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		<title>By: helper</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>helper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the &#039;company&#039; operators are German citizens physically lingering in Germany, victims should immediately contact the German government agency BKA which is in charge of transnational crimes and is legally bound to become active on their own behalf in case of a suspicion of such crimes. 
Contact: 

Bundeskriminalamt
65173 Wiesbaden/Germany
phone.: +49 611 55 - 0
fax: +49 611 55 - 12141
E-mail: info(at)bka.de

Using a fax machine is advisable. Write &quot;organisierte Kriminalität&quot; in the subject heading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the &#8216;company&#8217; operators are German citizens physically lingering in Germany, victims should immediately contact the German government agency BKA which is in charge of transnational crimes and is legally bound to become active on their own behalf in case of a suspicion of such crimes.<br />
Contact: </p>
<p>Bundeskriminalamt<br />
65173 Wiesbaden/Germany<br />
phone.: +49 611 55 &#8211; 0<br />
fax: +49 611 55 &#8211; 12141<br />
E-mail: info(at)bka.de</p>
<p>Using a fax machine is advisable. Write &#8220;organisierte Kriminalität&#8221; in the subject heading.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor T</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF I am a spammer I can pay 50 euro every day to get unlisted so my spam gets through
so THIS SYSTEM IS BROKEN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF I am a spammer I can pay 50 euro every day to get unlisted so my spam gets through<br />
so THIS SYSTEM IS BROKEN</p>
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		<title>By: legal hint</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>legal hint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not be shy to immediately contact and inform the Bundeskriminalamt (German Federal Criminal Office) which is the authority in charge as that website operator in question is seated in Bavaria, Germany under alternating postal addresses. Out of there, they operate nationwide and worldwide.

Please contact 

Bundeskriminalamt
65173 Wiesbaden
Germany

phone: +49 - 611 - 55 - 0
fax: +49 - 611 - 55 - 12141
E-mail: info(at)bka.de

Their website is http://www.bka.de</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not be shy to immediately contact and inform the Bundeskriminalamt (German Federal Criminal Office) which is the authority in charge as that website operator in question is seated in Bavaria, Germany under alternating postal addresses. Out of there, they operate nationwide and worldwide.</p>
<p>Please contact </p>
<p>Bundeskriminalamt<br />
65173 Wiesbaden<br />
Germany</p>
<p>phone: +49 &#8211; 611 &#8211; 55 &#8211; 0<br />
fax: +49 &#8211; 611 &#8211; 55 &#8211; 12141<br />
E-mail: info(at)bka.de</p>
<p>Their website is <a href="http://www.bka.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.bka.de</a></p>
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		<title>By: Speedy Gonzalez</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Speedy Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same hear. Just started getting emails bounced back a few days ago. Turns out useprotect added a range of Godaddy.coms IP addresses to their blacklist. Ridiculous. Definitely an extortion scam. Shame on uceprotect. They will get what&#039;s coming to them. Karma has a way of catching up to everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same hear. Just started getting emails bounced back a few days ago. Turns out useprotect added a range of Godaddy.coms IP addresses to their blacklist. Ridiculous. Definitely an extortion scam. Shame on uceprotect. They will get what&#8217;s coming to them. Karma has a way of catching up to everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
		<link>http://www.indomino.net/blog/2008/08/13/uceprotect-a-good-guy-or-a-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just get blacklisted due to 1 or 2 user in our ip range get blacklisted. 
My ip not in the blacklist but i still have to pay money to get white-listed ?

There are hard to get alternative ISP here. omg. 
Where can we complaint them ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just get blacklisted due to 1 or 2 user in our ip range get blacklisted.<br />
My ip not in the blacklist but i still have to pay money to get white-listed ?</p>
<p>There are hard to get alternative ISP here. omg.<br />
Where can we complaint them ?</p>
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